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Tsung Xu's avatar

The country-level energy consumption vs per capita numbers look off? China almost certainly does not have more per capita energy usage than the US.

And as for the impact of growing renewables on grid (and off grid) uses, I wrote something almost three years ago now but I think is still very relevant

https://www.tsungxu.com/p/clean-energy-transition-guide

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Jeffrey Quackenbush's avatar

Nice summary article. Two notes:

1. You said: "Footnote: Solar and wind do only convert a portion of input energy into electrical energy, but because this energy would be expended regardless (the sun shines and the wind blows whether solar cells and wind turbines are there or not), their low conversion efficiencies don’t have the same meaning, even aside from questions of carbon emissions."

The easy way to characterize the difference you reference here is that a fuel system converts "natural energy" in a chemical form into "primary energy" in the form of heat. The conversion to electricity and then some final form at somebody's house or whatever has an efficiency. A PV system converts "natural energy" in the form of light into "primary energy" in the form of electricity. So there are, by definition, no efficiency losses at the point of electricity generation for a PV system. It is important to recognize that we need a lot less primary energy for PV and other non-fuel systems than for our conventional fuel-based fleet.

2. You said: " A generator connected to the turbine turns this kinetic energy into electrical energy, which takes the form of electrons moving back and forth in an alternating current. This electrical energy then moves through the transmission and distribution system, its voltage and current being modulated along the way by transformers to minimize distribution losses, until it eventually reaches someone’s home."

Electricity is weirder than this. In most generating equipment, an electron goes from one side of the circuit out to a load (which would be in somebody's home or what-have-you) and transforms its energy there, but then the electron proceeds all the way back to the generating equipment to the other side of the circuit. Now in a grid, each electron won't necessarily go back to the same piece of generating equipment from where it started, so the picture is more complex; but the single electron's journey could indeed be thousands of miles. Electricity doesn't flow *to* your house, it flows *through* your house. This is strange because electrons are changing their form of energy in the *middle* of their motion from one place to another, rather than at the point of interaction, as we see with mechanical energy. Also, AC circuits don't have electrons going "back and forth." Actually, the reservoir of electrons moves back and forth between different sides of the circuit. With a rotating generator, this is done through the rotation of a magnet around fixed conductors.

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